Legislature(2013 - 2014)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/13/2014 01:30 PM Senate FINANCE


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CS FOR HOUSE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 15(FIN)                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Relating to the Task Force on Unmanned Aircraft                                                                            
     Systems.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
2:12:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  SHELLEY  HUGHES,   SPONSOR,  introduced  the                                                                    
legislation.  She explained  that  the legislation  extended                                                                    
the length of the task force.  She stated that in the United                                                                    
States  one in  four  homes  owned a  drone  because of  the                                                                    
smaller  size and  affordability. As  the use  increased the                                                                    
public's  concerns also  increased. Setting  "structures" in                                                                    
place with  "inherent protections,"  reduced the  impacts on                                                                    
the public.  She detailed  that Alaska  was selected  by the                                                                    
Federal  Aviation Administration  (FAA) to  be a  test site.                                                                    
The FAA continued  to address the safety  conditions for the                                                                    
use of drones. The role of  the task force was to examine th                                                                    
privacy   issues  and   Unmanned   Aircraft  Systems   (UAS)                                                                    
applications.  The  task  force   was  very  concerned  with                                                                    
privacy  issues  and misuse  of  UAS.  She remarked  on  the                                                                    
state's vast roadless  areas and noted the  potential of UAS                                                                    
in the  state. The  task force performed  will in  the prior                                                                    
year and had  issued a report to the  legislature on January                                                                    
14, 2014 and will issue a  final report on July 1, 2014. The                                                                    
task  force  brought  forward   HB  255  (Unmanned  Aircraft                                                                    
Systems) that set the parameters for law enforcement use.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes  related  that the  reason  the  task                                                                    
force should continue its work  was further address concerns                                                                    
over  privacy.  The  technology was  fast  growing  and  the                                                                    
integration of UAS  into national air space  was expected in                                                                    
late 2015.  She anticipated additional issues  emerging from                                                                    
the integration. One  of the duties of the  task force would                                                                    
be  to  continue to  conduct  public  hearings and  identify                                                                    
issues  on   privacy  and  data  collection,   evaluate  and                                                                    
recommend  solutions. The  task  force had  spent much  time                                                                    
focusing  on law  enforcement  use and  issues  in the  past                                                                    
year. Currently,  commercial and business use  was imminent.                                                                    
She  anticipated that  the impending  use of  commercial UAS                                                                    
would  bring  new  challenges. The  task  force  dealt  with                                                                    
Fourth Amendment  rights and would begin  to First Amendment                                                                    
rights regarding  business and  media use. She  believed the                                                                    
task  force  was "timely  and  necessary'  and stressed  the                                                                    
importance for  Alaskans to  know that  the issue  was being                                                                    
monitored and  addressed through policy. The  task force was                                                                    
comprised of  7 members and  the legislation added  a public                                                                    
member,  two  industry  members, and  the  commissioners  of                                                                    
DCCED,   and  Department   of   Transportation  and   Public                                                                    
Facilities  (DOT).  The  task  force  wanted  more  industry                                                                    
members and the  public to be more involved.  She noted that                                                                    
Senator Olson had been on  the task force. She believed that                                                                    
the task force needed to be  "a central point of contact for                                                                    
the public."                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:17:46 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes spoke  to  the  desire for  increased                                                                    
economic development  in the state.  She believed  the state                                                                    
was  a prime  location for  the UAS  industry. Other  states                                                                    
took a  more restrictive and  hesitant approach and  the UAS                                                                    
industry was  interested in  the state.  She shared  that an                                                                    
individual in  the industry was  looking forward  to growing                                                                    
his  business  to  100  people and  felt  the  UAS  industry                                                                    
provided  more  opportunity  for  Alaskans.  She  urged  the                                                                    
committee to advance the legislation.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer  asked for  verification  that  one in  four                                                                    
households owned a drone.  Representative Hughes answered in                                                                    
the affirmative.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Meyer pointed  to the  sponsor statement  (copy on                                                                    
file). He asked  about the single point of  contact noted in                                                                    
the document. He inquired whether  a single point of contact                                                                    
was currently in place.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes answered  that  the  single point  of                                                                    
contact  was not  assigned to  any specific  department. The                                                                    
task force was the acting point of contact.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer  asked whether the  task force  was expanding                                                                    
its  membership.   Representative  Hughes  replied   in  the                                                                    
affirmative; by 5 additional members.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy questioned  whether drones  had the  audio                                                                    
and visual  capacity that  caused concerns  and how  a drone                                                                    
was defined.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
2:20:25 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes responded  that a  UAS with  a camera                                                                    
was unrelated.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
GINGER  BLAISDELL,   STAFF,  REPRESENTATIVE   SHELLY  HUGHES                                                                    
replied  that  the term  "drone"  had  been adopted  by  the                                                                    
military  for weaponized  unmanned  aircraft. She  explained                                                                    
that more professional sounding  names were in use; however,                                                                    
drone  was  easier to  say.  A  drone  was  the same  as  an                                                                    
unmanned aircraft and was not related to weapons use.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy elucidated that  for many years individuals                                                                    
used recreational aircraft without  weaponry. He wondered if                                                                    
the recreational individuals' rights  were being rolled into                                                                    
the  larger  discussion  on  UAS.   He  wondered  whether  a                                                                    
distinction  existed between  model airplane  enthusiast and                                                                    
the commercial and visual audio use of UAS.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell answered  that one  of the  functions of  the                                                                    
task  force  would  define  "where   the  line  was  drawn."                                                                    
Currently  the  FAA  had  rules stating  that  UAS  use  for                                                                    
commercial  purposes  a  certificate  of  authorization  was                                                                    
required.  Most UAS  operators  with  camera equipment  were                                                                    
unaware that  they may be  operating illegally  and received                                                                    
fines. Some of the fines had  been dropped and some had been                                                                    
pursued. She indicated  that another role of  the task force                                                                    
was public education.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked if he  had a model airplane  and was                                                                    
flying it  on his property  he wondered if he  was violating                                                                    
any new laws since UAS came into use.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Blaisdell replied  in the  negative. She  reported that                                                                    
unless the  individual wanted to  sell and  photography from                                                                    
unmanned  aircraft the  individual was  not in  violation of                                                                    
any  law. The  Academy of  Model Aeronautics  worked closely                                                                    
with  the FAA  and  set  out the  guidelines  and rules  for                                                                    
hobbyists. She  reiterated that most  users were  unaware of                                                                    
the   rules.  She   believed  that   "mass  education"   was                                                                    
necessary.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
2:24:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Olson commented  that the  FAA continued  to revise                                                                    
regulations related  to model aircraft  and UAS  in relation                                                                    
to sharing  airspace with manned  aircraft. He was  in favor                                                                    
of the legislature.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Meyer CLOSED public testimony.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Fairclough  pointed  to  page 3  and  noted  the                                                                    
absence  of  the   definition  of  a  drone   and  what  was                                                                    
regulated.  She   hoped  that   the  task   force  developed                                                                    
recommendations concerning recreational and camera use.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Hughes  replied  that  the  issue  had  been                                                                    
discussed  in  the  last  report   of  the  task  force  and                                                                    
discussions  would  continue  along with  implementation  of                                                                    
public education.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
HCR  15  was  HEARD  and   HELD  in  committee  for  further                                                                    
consideration.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                

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